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Home » Offseason Leagues » A look to the Blue Jays Prospects in the AFL with guest Kevin Goldstein

The Arizona Fall League (AFL) is a league intended for prospects to be able to refine their skills and perform in a game setting. Individuals from all 30 MLB teams form new teams and then play against each other in front of numerous scouts and team executives. The season begins shortly after the end of the MLB’s regular season in early October, and ends in mid-November.

Last year, the Toronto Blue Jays sent players including; 1B Mike McDade, INF John Tolisano, OF Adam Loewen, OF Eric Thames, SS Adeiny Hechavarria, LHP Marc Rzepczynski, RHP Matt Daly, RHP Alan Farina and RHP Danny Farquhar. This year their list included; C Yan Gomes, 3B Kevin Ahrens, SS Adeiny Hechavarria, OF Anthony Gose, LHP Aaron Loup, RHP Wes Etheridge and LHP Evan Crawford.

With some exciting players to see, JaysProspects would have loved to be there in person. However, since we could not, we have first-hand analysis from Kevin Goldstein, the prospect guru at Baseball Prospectus. Goldstein analyzed many of the players attending the AFL and was kind to share his insight with JaysProspects.

Many are quick to wonder what immediate benefit playing in the AFL has for prospects. “They gain more playing time development and repetitions,” Goldstein stated, adding that it is certainly a nice message for players to get sent here. “It’s a way for the organization to tell a player that he is valued, and seen as close to contributing at the big league level.”

Players that join the league usually consist of prospects that are in need of more playing time, whether it is because they missed part of the season due to injury, a new position or are working on a specific pitch or role.“It’s different for each guy,” Goldstein announced.

With the Blue Jays having sent some high-calibre hitters, people wonder how accurate the stats are as the AFL is known as a hitter’s league. “It’s tough to look at the stats and believe them entirely,” the prospect guru admitted, “The AFL record book is littered with names like Scott Pose, Ken Harvey and Tagg Bozied. Between the environment and the small sample sizes, you really have to depend on the scouts.”

One question fans often ask about a player is how close they are from being major league ready. JaysProspects asked Goldstein when he thought fans should expect Anthony Gose, Adeiny Hechavarria and Kevin Ahrens to be wearing a Blue Jays’ uniform. “Obviously, there’s no guarantee that Ahrens ever gets there,” he indicated, reasoning that “In his four years as a pro, he’s yet to get to Double-A.” He then further added that “Gose is clearly much closer, but he needs to get some of that swing-and-miss out of his game.” Lastly, he indicated that Hechavarria is the closest of the three prospects but cautioned fans that they should not be expecting too much of the bat.

While it is hard to believe the stats entirely, Anthony Gose has produced some decent numbers thus far in the AFL. In fact, the young 21-year-old has batted .255/.349/.415 through 27 games so far. He has also hit five doubles, four triples, three homeruns and has drove in 19 runs. Gose still has to improve upon his pitch recognition; he has struck out 37 times but has also walked 13 times. He is still showing that great speed stealing seven bases while being caught twice. Goldstein also told JaysProspects that the reason these numbers are lower is not because of plate discipline, but instead, because of his pitch recognition. “Gose’s walk rate improved dramatically in 2011, which is a fantastic sign for a young player in Double-A, but he still gets fooled by breaking balls, and can look foolish at times, thus the 154 strikeouts in 147 games and the .253 batting average.”

There is not a Blue Jays’ prospect fan that cannot talk about Gose’s biggest strength – his speed. But when asked about Gose’s skills, Goldstein was also quick to acknowledge that it is not his only advantage. “Gose is loaded with tools,” Goldstein stated, “The speed helps to make him a very good center-fielder, his arm is an absolute cannon, and he has at least average power. He’s the total package other than the hit tool.”

Aside from Gose, the Blue Jays also sent one of their other top prospects, shortstop Adeiny Hechavarria. The highly-touted Cuban native signed a 4-year, $10 million contract on April 13, 2010. Analyzing his stats over his two year pro career people often wonder if he is as good as previously advertised. Hechavarria has had some highlights to his AFL season where he batted .250/.308/.444 through 19 games. He has also hit three doubles, four triples, one homerun and drove in eight runs. Like Gose, the shortstop needs to improve upon his pitch recognition; he has struck out 17 times while only walking six times.

JaysProspects asked Goldstein what Hechavarria needs to do to prove his worth: “He needs to prove he can hit enough. Not in any big way, but just enough where he can play every day and hit ninth.” He went on to say, “I think he’s close to that, but I think it’s foolish to every expect him to have any kind of considerable offensive impact.”

Every Blue Jays fan knows the Cuban’s greatest strength is his gold glove calibre defence. When asked what his other strengths are, Goldstein stated that “He’ll never be much of a hitter, but he can run a bit, and he really does have some juice in his swing. Not in any major way, but he could hit 10 home runs a year.”

Many fans are wondering the fate of former first-round pick in the 2007 MLB Draft, Kevin Ahrens, who has not been able to make it to double-A. While he has not had any outstanding years as a whole, he has surely shown that he does have promise for the future. His numbers from the AFL emphasize this notion.

The young infielder has batted .259/.330/.395 thus far through 22 games. He has also hit eight doubles, one homerun and drove in 12 runs. Like the aforementioned young hitters in Hechavarria and Gose, Ahrens could help himself out by improving his pitch recognition. In the AFL, he has struck out 22 times while walking only nine times. While Goldstein states that Ahrens has done nothing substantial to be overly optimistic about the prospect who will soon be entering his sixth year of professional ball, JaysProspects is remaining patient and optimistic about his potential.

Aside from Ahrens, left-hander Aaron Loup is another fan-favourite. Because of this, we were anxious to find out more in relation to Loup’s stats to how he looked in person. Loup has posted a 1-0 record with a 4.70ERA through 11 games thus far. He has held opponents to a .237 average, while also striking out 16 batters only walking one over just over 15 innings pitched. “Loup is a fringy, undersized lefty with a decent fastball/slider combination.” Goldstein stated, adding, “His arm angle makes it difficult for left-handers to pick up the ball against him.”

With that said, JaysProspects was quick to question what his ceiling should be if everything pans out. “He’s a potential reliever, but I don’t see him being anything more than a situational type,” Goldstein replied.

Overall it is evident that the Toronto Blue Jays have tons of potential pieces for the future in their farm system. The previous players mentioned, along with their stats thus far in their AFL season have proven that.

JaysProspects wants to thank Kevin Goldstein for his time and effort in informing us about players in the AFL. Please check out some of his work at Baseball Prospectus and give him a follow on twitter, @Kevin_Goldstein.

Ryan Kinsey
I am a hardcore baseball/Blue Jays fan with loads of knowledge on the game. I love to follow and evaluate prospects at each minor league level. I look forward every year to Blue Jays baseball. Follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/ryan_kinsey
  • Jon

    The tone of this article is in direct contrast to Goldstein’s comments and the players’ performances. For instance, you describe Gose’s AFL numbers as “decent” and state that Ahrens’ AFL numbers “show promise for the future,” yet both players are hitting well below average for an offensive league. Furthermore, in Gose’s case he’s still displaying the one tendency he needs to improve on – striking out too much.

    I love the Jays, their prospects, and this website, but none of these guys are major league regulars except Gose, and even his future is uncertain.

  • Timothy

    “Every Blue Jays fan knows the Cuban’s greatest strength is his gold glove calibre defence.” (Referring to Hecharvarria). Not so fast, he had 15 errors in 2011, not exactly a golden glove performance.

  • Mylegacy

    Kevin’s more or less telling us what we know. Gose and Hech are both works in progress – both making improvements but time will tell and Aherns is pretty much finished as a serious prospect.

    Personally, I think an up the middle of Gose in CF, Hech at SS and Escobar at 2nd will be DEFENSIVELY one the best in the majors. IF – Gose ups his “hit” and “OBP” game just a bit he can be an effective offensive player – he and Escobar will contribute both ways and Hech will dazzle us with his range and glove and the occasional isolated home run.

    Should be interesting to watch. I really – really – want Hech and Gose to become what we hope they might become!

    • ryan mueller

      You summed it very well.
      My only hope for Kevin is that he some how makes to AAA and has a Copper-ish season and Alex can fool another GM into thinking he is still a prospect.

  • ryan mueller

    Timothy many minor league SS commit 15+ errors due to the fact that many of the fields are not as pristine as those in the big league. Lets assume that half of those errors are caused by the field and from a young player being over aggressive. That means he had 7.5 errors that were from bad throws, no slowing the game down (remember his age), and because of minor league score keepers.
    ps this is a guy who will be a defensive SS not a offensive SS.

  • Timothy

    Ryan, I appreciate your analysis, but what if you looked at it this way? Let’s look at the infielders in the Toronto AA/AAA levels and how many errors they would have committed, assuming they played 126 games as did Hechavarria. Remember, Hechavarria only played SS. Many of the others played, 2nd, SS, 3B or all three and delt with a variety of field conditions good and bad from as many as three positions. Players are noted if they played in more the 30 games in 2011.

    Rember, Hechavarria had 15 errors in 126 games

    The following players would have had these calculated errors in 126 games:

    7.2 errors Ramon Vasquez
    7.3 errors Callix Crabbe
    8.2 errors Jonathan Diaz
    11.2 errors Craig Stansberry
    11.7 errors Manny Mayorson
    15.0 actual errors by Adeiny Hechavarria in 126 games
    22.2 errors Chris Woodward
    23.2 errors Mike McCoy
    29.3 errors Brett Lawrie

    Using this calculation, Hechavarria is the fourth worst of all the players who had to deal with the less than pristine fields in AA and AAA levels. I still think it is a bit premature to sing praises of Adeiny as a defence king. He does look spectacular on a given play, but when all is said and done, over a season’s time, he’s fourth from the bottom in calculated error totals.

    • ryan mueller

      I can’t argue with that. Lets hope you are wrong. Very good prospective Timothy.

    • Rocky

      Do you watch Derek Jeter play SS… He don’t have anymore range so he don’t make anymore mistake because he can’t reach it!!! But a player that can reach more ball that will be basehit anyway have less time to make a play… (a diving play, reach a ball almost at third or second base) So this mean more errors because of that. Less time to make the play result of a hard throw = less accuracy..

      That why spectacular shortstops make more errors… they have to learn their limit sand the importance of the moment in the game!!!!

      (Sorry for my English, I speak French).

  • andrew clark

    You really cannot make much of his errors. His range and strength of arm could easily offset this

  • Mylegacy

    Timothy

    You’re WRONG about minor league errors. The fact is a minor league player – especially a SS – is encouraged to try to make the spectacular play – that is how they learn where their limits are. The teams expect them to explore the absolute limits of their ability, arm, range, etc., so that when they reach the majors they’ll know – by then – what they can get to, what throws they can make, etc.

    IF a minor league player does not make errors he is just not trying to push the outside of his personal range – the exact opposite of what he should be trying to expand as he grows his range, his arm, etc.

    • ryan mueller

      You would expect that someone with great range and a strong arm would save more runs than they cost with the errors they commit. Is this what you are saying? If so I agree with you.

  • http://www.ryankinsey.com Ryan Kinsey

    Thanks for the comments everybody, I’d just like to point out a few things. Don’t ever rely on minor league stats such as errors to determine a players value defensively. As some of you have pointed out there are many factors accumulating these errors that aren’t poor defense. I’ve heard from many people including some scouts/baseball industry professionals that Hechavarria is the best or one of the best defensive shortstops not playing in the major leagues. Another point is Gose actually does have a respectable OBP of .349 last season I believe. Once the average goes up the OBP will to, he has improved his walk rate dramatically in 2011. Final thought, what are your overall expectations from Hechavarria? Have they changed since he signed with the Blue Jays?

  • Eric Ely

    I think a good comp for Hechavarria would be Alcides Escobar. The defense is what will carry Hech at the MLB level. I can see him having a bit more pop in his bat then A. Escobar but with elite level defense. I would be okay with a line of .260/.300/.340 for him knowing how well he will be in the field. The near future of the Jays defensively, especially up the middle like Mylegacy said, will be among the best in the league. For Hech to be a productive player for the Jays he doesn’t need to be one of the top offensive producers; offense shouldn’t be a concern for the team. For me, average offensive numbers by Hech will be more than compensated for by his tremendous defense.

  • http://www.ryankinsey.com Ryan Kinsey

    @Eric – You hit the point bang on with everything that you said, plus the comparison is great. Like Kevin said in the interview, as long as you don’t expect top offensive number from Hechavarria he will be a impact guy. Perfect 9 hole hitter with speed and tremendous defense.